Norvel Hayes | It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth | General of the Faith


Sid: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s
naturally supernatural. Our show has one of the true
generals of faith, Dr. Norvel Hayes, 86 years young. And the doctors, the doctors say
that when they examine him they can’t imagine how someone can be
that healthy. And not only that, at one point,
Norvel had 14 business corporations of which many were
million-dollar corporations. So how did a man have such favor
at 86 to have health like that? How did a man have such favor to
have all these corporations? He found out in Heaven and he’s
going to teach you. Is there a supernatural
dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages
from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets
of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of
It’s Supernatural. Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Dr. Norvel
Hayes. He is going to answer a question
that I believe every single one of you have asked at one time or
another. You see, Norvel was just a young
boy, 10 years of age, and his mother who was a faithful
Baptist, went around witnessing to people, she gets cancer and
age 37, she dies. And Norvel, that crushed you. You were, what, about 10 years
of age. Your mother dies. Norvel: I cried for four years. Sid: Four years you cried. Norvel: Yeah. I cried for four years. My mother died. Every time I thought about my
mother I’d have to leave the room and went out the house and
cried my eyes out. Sid: And you got to the point
where you said, okay God, I need an answer. Norvel: Yes I did. Sid: Tell me the question you
asked God. Norvel: I asked God why didn’t
He heal her. I said, “Because I know you’re a
healer, Jesus, but I don’t understand why you didn’t heal
her. She has a soul in her and you
say that one soul is worth more than the whole world. Well if you let my mother died
than live, she could save a number of souls for you, worth
more than the world. And you are a healer. Now why didn’t you heal her?” He said, “I didn’t kill your
mother with cancer.” God said, “I had nothing to do
with it. Nothing.” He said, “I couldn’t heal her.” I said, “That makes no sense to
me for you to say that because I read Matthew, Mark, Luke and
John, and you healed everybody in town on this earth. You’re the same as you were
then.” Sid: So why couldn’t He heal
her? Norvel: He said, “The church she
went to, they failed to teach her about my divine healing
power. So therefore, she didn’t know a
thing about it. If they had taught her correctly
she could have got healed.:” Sid: You know what comes to me
Norvel, the scripture that says, “My people die for the lack of
knowledge.” Norvel: That’s exactly right. He said, “My people,” that’s
Christians, “my people for the lack of knowledge. You have a church out here. But just because you have a
church with a bunch of people, that’s no sign you’re doing
anything much. Sid: You know Norvel, even today
most churches fail to teach about the divine healing power. But Norvel has a passion for
people to understand Bible faith, for people to be healed. And cancer and heart conditions,
forget it. You stand no chance when Dr.
Norvel stands up. Now Norvel was a successful
businessman. He had 14 businesses at one
time. Norvel: And 14 secretaries. Sid: And 14 secretaries. Norvel: One for each business. Sid: Many of them were
million-dollar businesses. And all of a sudden, as he likes
to say, he was mind his own business and God speaks to him. What did God tell you? Norvel: I was saying a little
prayer in my heart one night. And I couldn’t understand and I
began to weep. And He said, “You’re killing
yourself. You’re working so hard. You’re killing yourself and
you’re not doing anything for me.” Sid: Okay. I want to jump forward now. You go to a dump and you see a
little girl there that had a major, profound impact on your
life. Tell me about that. Norvel: Yeah I did. This little girl walked up to
me, just quart milk a glass bottle, she said, “This is
all the milk I’ve got.” Well when she said that, the
Holy Ghost jumped in me and rose up like this, and I couldn’t
even talk. I turned my face toward Heaven
and I said, “God, is this the kind of ministry you’ve given me
for leaving the church?” And the Lord said to me just as
plain, “My son, be faithful to me here and I will promote you. I am going to set you on a high
hill and the light of God will shine to you to many men. Now you go in peace in Jesus’
name. Go in peace. Go in peace and trust me. Go in peace. Love thy neighbor as thyself.” Sid: I want to find out what
Norvel Hayes saw in Heaven. He’s been there several times. I’ve never been there. I’ve read about it in the Bible. But I want to find out why it
was so wonderful he didn’t even want to come back. But you come back. We’ll be right back to
It’s Supernatural! We now return to
It’s Supernatural! Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Dr. Norvel
Hayes. And I’m on the edge of my seat
because he’s been to Heaven and I want him to tell me what he
saw. But before that, Norvel, I’m
reminded of May Stafford. You said, “God, I want to see
some miracles like I read in the Bible.” And according to my notes, May
had six deadly diseases. Norvel: That’s right. Sid: Tell me what was wrong with
her and what happened. Norvel: She was blind. Her mind was gone. She had been in an old people’s
home for 11 years with palsy. Sid: She was in a wheelchair. Norvel: Yes. She would go to church in a
wheelchair. She would sit in a wheelchair. She couldn’t walk. The Lord said to me, “Pray for
that lady. Go lay your hands on that lady. Lay your hands on that lady.” Sid: So you laid hands on May
Stafford and what happens? Norvel: My hands touched her
like this and it was so strong. And when I touched her like this
and all of a sudden, I never saw this before. All of a sudden, like that, and
I liked down and she’s not in the wheelchair. The wheelchair is empty. And about a thousand people
screamed out all at once [scream]. I looked around and this woman
came walking, blind and everything. She’s on the other side of the
church. I turned to her on the other
side of the church. She’s running around in a circle
screaming, “Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! Jesus!” And all of a sudden, there she
was, 20/20 vision. All of a sudden, her mind came
back to her. Sid: Her mind was totally gone. Norvel: Totally gone. She took to her wheelchair. She needed help getting this
wheelchair and she pushed it around. I mean, the healing just about
took the church over. [unintelligible] Sid: Well, I
mean, you provoke me to jealousy. You tell me about all the people
that get new hearts and all the people that get healed of cancer
when you pray. And God has blessed your health. God has blessed you, everything
about you, your finances, your family. Tell me what you saw in Heaven. What did it look like? What did you experience? Norvel: This world came from
Heaven. You understand that? They have lakes. They have grass. They have flowers. They have fruit trees. The difference here, you go over
to a peach tree, you pull a peach off. That’s it, you know, and you
peel it and it falls on the ground. Where in Heaven, you go over to
a peach tree or apple tree, you pull a rotten peach off and the
moment you pull it off, another ripe peach comes on the tree all
ready to eat. The thing that impressed me was
everything in the world in Heaven was my breathing. In Heaven, every time you
breathe, you feel the presence of God. Every breath I take here I
breathe in the presence of God. Oh, it feels so good going all
the way down to body to my feet. It feels so good. The next breath feels better. Sid: Heaven sounds perfect. Norvel: And the main thing I saw
was a big building. And He let me walk through the
building and in all the different rooms. And all the different rooms had
little furniture, small furniture. And I couldn’t figure, what is
this? Is this a dollhouse or what? Sid: Okay. Then many years later after that
experience in Heaven, you’re in a car and all of a sudden the
drive disappears and you have a vision about your life work. Norvel: That’s right. Sid: Tell me the vision. Norvel: I was riding a car, you
know. All of a sudden, God came in
real strong and everything disappeared. I couldn’t see the driver. I couldn’t see the palm trees
…in West Florida. I couldn’t see nothing. And then it’s just like, whoosh. And I was taken up to a higher
level. And I looked down like this and
the only thing I could see, I could see the palm trees, I
could see little bitty, teeny kids that needed help. That’s all I could see. A whole circle around like this,
you know, and I’m in the middle of them. And I looked around me and
they’re all looking at me. All of them are looking at me
like this right here. Help me. Help me. Help me, please help me. I don’t want to die. I don’t want to die. Help me! Help me! Help me! And so God said to me, “I
haven’t forgotten about the little children and what you saw
in Heaven, would they live. I haven’t forgotten about them.” He said, “And I want you to get
me a building. Help me, son,” God said to me,
“help me, son. Help me save the little
children.” Sid: What did it do to your
children when you saw those little children going like this,
help, help, help! I could just picture these
aborted babies going, help, help, help! What did it to you? Norvel: It made me want to take
every one of them into my arms and find them a place to live
and give them food. That was probably some 35 years
ago. Now the older I got, I’m 86 now,
and I’ve never lost the vision, seeing, trying to do what God
wants you to do. The older you get, the
Sweeter it gets. Sid: The two things that Norvel
learned in Heaven, one, help people that are in need. You see, God is love and He’s
concerned about the homeless. He’s concerned about the aborted
babies. He’s concerned about the hungry. And the second thing is worship
God, not just for a few minutes on a Sunday morning, but as a
lifestyle. And I’m going to ask Norvel to
worship God the way he does in his home. But most people, they don’t do
this in their home. They just do it for a few
minutes on a Sunday morning. And I tell you, the favor that
Norvel operates under, you are going to operate on because this
is a change in your destiny. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back to
It’s Supernatural We now return to
It’s Supernatural. Sid: The Spirit of God came into
this studio just now. And I asked Norvel to worship
God, and he said, “Sid, God is in this studio. God has something to say people. God wants to change your life.” Norvel: The two main things I
learned. I learned to feed the poor. I learned to worship Him, which
the church I went to, they didn’t worship God. They just simply sung songs and
loved the Lord. They sung songs, but we had no
worshiping classes. Nobody would worship. Nobody lifted their hands to
worship the Lord. And God says, God says, “If you return to me,
bow down before me, lift up your hands and worship me,” God says,
“I will heal your land. You can have anything you want. You’re supposed to living all
the time, you and all other Christians in the abundant life. Jesus paid the price, that my
son paid the price that you live an abundant life.” Sid: Norvel, I want you to
worship God the way you normally worship Him at home. Would you do that right now. Norvel: [crying] Thank you,
Jesus. Thank you, Father. I worship you, Lord. I praise you. I worship you, Jesus. Oh God, there is no other. Thank you, Jesus. I hold your name above all names
on the earth, Jesus. I hold your name above all names
on Earth. Thank you Jesus for loving us. Oh God, thank you for loving us,
Jesus. He was so good to us. So good to us. I worship you, Lord and praise
you. Thank you Lord for loving us in
Heaven. Thank you for saving me. Thank you Lord for my being in
your presence. Someday I want to be in your
presence all the time. Oh God, in Jesus’ name. Worship me, son, worship. You worship me and I’ll show you
how God, blessed be His holy name. Lord, I worship you forever and
I promise you, Lord, I will never serve any other God. I’ll never worship any other God
because I believe and I know that you are the true and living
God, and there is no other. He suffered so long on the cross
for me. Sid: Norvel, I’m seeing
something right now. Norvel, I want you to pray for
people with cancer and heart trouble. Would you do that? Norvel: Thank you Jesus. Lord, you know the gift that you
put in my ministry for people that had bad hearts, everybody
that’s looking on the screen, Lord, stretch your hands out to
the screen. And pray this prayer, Lord,
thank you, Lord. I remember the first time in
Illinois that you did this and you said, “I want to
pump a new heart in the chest right now in different parts of
the world. As they stretch their hand out
to the TV screen, if they’re watching you, I ask you Heavenly
Father in Jesus’ name to pump a new heart into the chest of
everyone who has bad hearts. Thousands of them, pump a new
heart in their chest that have a bad heart. Now Lord, those, there are
hundreds and hundreds, and hundreds of people that have
cancer and don’t know what to do. They think they have to die. Those that don’t know any
better, they don’t have to die young. But Lord, you know better and I
know better. I curse. I know what you taught me in
Heaven. You talked to me. I curse the roots of every
cancer in Jesus’ name. The person that has cancer
looking in on this TV program, I curse the roots of that cancer
and I command the roots of it to die. Die, I said, in Jesus’ name. Just like the fig tree did when
Jesus cursed it, die, roots. I command every cancer cell to
die and disappear from that body. Thank you, Lord, for your Divine
healing power flowing through the body from the top of the
head to the soles of their feet, in Jesus’ name. Thank you, Lord. Sid: Now Norvel, you said that
you have no down days. And if depression tries to hit
you, what do you do? Norvel: Oh, I throw my hands up
like this and say, thank you, Jesus, take a hold of me, Lord. The joy of the Lord is my
strength. Oh, how I love Jesus because he
first loved me. Sid: Do you force yourself to
dance, too? Norvel: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I get up and dance a little bit
and I sit back down and I’ll sing some more, sing some more
until all depression leaves. Because the devil, the devil is
not dead. He’ll try and put all kinds of
things on you. But you’ll have to accept
nothing he puts. You or me, nobody else knows the
power, the love that Jesus does. We don’t have to accept evil
things that destroy us from the devil. We don’t have to accept that. Sid: I have an invitation for
you and that is don’t you ever forget that God says, you have
to help people that are less fortunate than you. God says, worship me. Worship Him, not just for a few
minutes on Sunday morning, but make it a lifestyle, because
anything God has done for Norvel, He’ll do for you. Norvel: That’s right. Sid: He’ll even do it better,
Norvel. I believe that. Don’t you. Norvel: Yeah. And Sid, there’s a third part to
that while we’re on that subject. Sid: What’s that? Norvel: Make sure you pray for
people because God says, if you pray for people you’ll be healed
yourself. That’s in the scripture. Pray for people so you’ll be
healed yourself. God likes for you to pray for
people. Pray for people. Lord, I pray for people all over
the world to be shown that your holy presence, Lord, that your
healing power, Lord is … to cause all
afflictions to disappear, bones straighten out, everything,
blind eyes, mind, total mind,
Jesus, you give it to them. I ask you to give it to them,
Father, in Jesus’ name. Thank you, Lord, for doing it
for them, because they need you, Lord. They’re just like me. You know I need you every day. Every day. I’d like for you to bless me
every day. Thank you, Lord, for doing it
for those that need help, look in the screen right now in
Jesus’ name. I thank you for it, Lord. I praise you for it all the days
I shall live. I praise you for it. Thank you, Lord, for letting me
live. I’m 86 years old. I’ve told you I’d like to come
home now, but I don’t have to come home now because you
remember Jesus, I tell you all the time, I haven’t forgotten
what you did for me on the cross. Why would I want to go home now? If I can get a few more people
to you, Lord, if I can get a few more people healed. Sid: Let me tell you a reason
you don’t want to go home right now, Norvel. I can tell you a good reason. We’re about ready to see the
greatest move of God’s spirit on Planet Earth and I want to see
Norvel involved. I want to see him mentoring you
and discipling you, and I want to see you involved. It’s time to get out of the
chair in the entertainment sport called church and go out in the
highways of highways, and compel them to come in. I compel you in Jesus’ name to
make Jesus your Lord. Sid: Nextweek on
t’s Supernatural. You know when doctors give you
bad reports, they say your mother or your father died of
cancer or heart trouble, it’s your DNA. My guest has been shown how to
supernaturally change your DNA. He calls it genetic salvation. You go all the way where the
flaw started, Adam and Eve, you break those curses and you’re
walking in new DNA.

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