Human Rights vs Grand Corruption | #Random4 🇵🇪

Corruption has two sides. We mostly look at the vulnerable side which includes Latin America and other poor nations but we ignore the other side. En este edificio se encuentra el “Diálogo Interamericano”. Es uno de los laboratorios de ideas más prestigiosos en Washington. Aquí se promueve el diálogo e intercambio de ideas entre los distintos líderes de Latinoamérica. Hoy cubriremos un tema que ha estado integrado a la humanidad desde sus inicios. Especialmente en algunas personas que poseen algún cargo importante y que a veces lo abusan para su propio beneficio. La corrupción. La corrupción no es episódica. En Latinoamérica es sistemática y estructural. Para liberarse de ella hay que crear soluciones sistemáticas y con estructura. Es una de las formas más rápidas pero peligrosas de amasar riqueza. Un ejemplo es el escándalo de ODEBRECHT, una gigante constructora en Brasil que corrompe y deja a líderes políticos en aprietos. Muchos de ellos en América Latina. It is a regional problem. Perhaps with the exception of Chile, Uruguay or Costa Rica. All the rest of our countries have this problem. But we are also witnessing a more positive side. Justice is reacting. We haven’t had judges and prosecutors so proactive and honest without a doubt. Of course there are differences and errors have been made, but there has been positive action for the most part. We now see alleged culprits march into courtrooms to account for their actions. This is great. It breaks the tradition of impunity, which has prolonged for decades. José Ugaz es un jurista peruano. También fue presidente de la junta de “Transparencia Internacional”. Una organización anticorrupción. Él es el terror de los corruptos. También fue procurador Ad-Hoc de la nación en el caso de Alberto Fujimori y su asesor Vladimiro Montesinos. Lamentablemente varios ex presidentes del Perú están bajo investigación y hay uno que está a punto de ser extraditado. Cabe mencionar que en abril del 2019 Alan García, expresidente también, se quitó la vida cuando policías intentaban arrestarlo en su domicilio. Aunque existe escepticismo sobre el tema. You attend meetings with various governments around the world. How do they feel about Latin American countries when it comes to corruption? It depends on the government. I believe the most developed countries, in Europe for example, have a clearer vision of what occurs in nations like ours. In other cases there is a misunderstanding of the phenomenon and it is believed that is simply a cultural problem which is true to some extent… This can be observed in citizens’ daily lives… Corruption has two sides. We mostly look at the vulnerable side, which includes Latin America and other poor nations but we ignore the other side, which is where it comes from. “Transparency International” measures both sides. When it measures the perception of corruption, the most corrupt are always developing countries and the best ranked are those in the first world. But this is reversed when it measures the bribers. There is corruption in the first world as well. People just call it different names. Indeed. Por qué ocurre esto? La respuesta es compleja pero para decirlo sin rodeos… La razón es la supervivencia. La cuál es activada por nuestro instinto animal. No? Corruption is nothing new… The problem with corruption is that in recent decades, due to a number of factors on the one hand globalization, on the other organized crime. Also, because there is money on the table, the ease of communications, technology, etc. Today we are talking about what “Transparency International” qualifies as Grand Corruption. It is a phenomenon in which powerful actors participate with either political or economic power. They mobilize great amounts of resources. All this generates an impact on fundamental rights and people in their daily lives. Mostly in poor countries like Peru. Where corruption kills, ills, denies education, it prevents the poorest people from having access to drinking water or losing their jobs. The law evolves and so does corruption. What is the grand solution to grand corruption? First you must break the tradition of impunity by interrupting corrupt practices. On the other hand, citizens need to act, and control mechanisms should be implemented. In cases where corruption is structural, like in Latin America, structural reforms are required in order to have a sanitized judicial power. Because there is a system of public purchase and investment that is transparent, that has the appropriate controls, So that there is a general comptroller of the republic that is able to make concurrent control and prevent acts of this nature and also of course that governments have accountability and transparency processes on the relevant issues that they will decide. All this with the general reforms, in terms of political reform or justice reform put together a structure that should allow these large spaces of corruption and impunity to be reduced.

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