Art & Activism with Faith Ringgold | Black America


♪ [THEME MUSIC] ♪>>>HELLO AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY. I’M CAROL JENKIN, THE PROGRAM IS “BLACK AMERICA.” AND TODAY WE HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING JOINED BY THE WORLD’S CELEBRATED ARTIST, FAITH RINGGOLD. CELEBRATED FOR A CAREER THAT HAS LASTED SOME 70 YEARS. SHE IS COLLECTING AWARDS NOW FROM THE COLLEGE ART ASSOCIATION, A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT HONOR FROM THEM, AND THE MEDAL OF HONOR FROM THE NATIONAL ARTS CLUB WHICH SAYS SHE HAS CREATED A VISUAL NARRATIVE THAT STANDS OUT IN ITS POWER TO MOVE AND TO ENCHANT. AND CONGRATULATIONS, FAITH. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. >>WELL, YOU’RE WELCOME. I’M HAPPY TO BE HERE. >>OH, MY GOODNESS. THIS FLOURISH OF HONORS, MY GOODNESS. EVERYBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, FAITH RINGGOLD WE LOVE YOUR WORK AND THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR SO MANY YEARS.>>WELL, CAN’T DENY IT. >>YOU CAN’T DENY IT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO I KNOW THAT YOU WERE BORN IN HARLEM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS. YOU’RE A DEPRESSION ERA CHILD, BUT YOU SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE DEPRESSION AND YOU WERE IN HARLEM, YOU WERE NOT A POOR FAMILY. TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. >>WELL, I THINK WE WERE BROUGHT UP TO — WHAT, TO TAKE PRIDE IN THE WAY WE LOOKED. AND I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY PEOPLE NOT COMING OUT IN THE STREET ON SUNDAY IF THEY WEREN’T DRESSED.>>DRESS UP. >>YEAH, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING. AND PEOPLE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE IN THE WAY THEY LOOKED. MEN BOUGHT CLOTHES AND SHOWED THEM TO THEIR FRIENDS WITH PRIDE AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL WHERE THEY WORE WHAT. SO THE PEOPLE LOOKED WAS EXCEEDINGLY IMPORTANT. AND YEAH, I THINK THE WAY THEY ACTED TOO WAS.>>YOU DIDN’T HAVE A SENSE OF BEING IMPOVERISHED OR DEPRIVED AS A CHILD. >>ABSOLUTELY NOT, NO. IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE. >>NOW, YOU HAD — YOU WERE DISPUTING ME WITH MY 70 YEAR CAREER FIGURE. I MEAN, THAT’S YOUR PUBLIC CAREER. PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN YOUR ART WORK FOR 70 YEARS BUT YOU SAY YOU STARTED AS AN ARTIST WHEN YOU WERE A TODDLER. TELL US A BIT ABOUT THAT –>>OKAY WELL I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT’S EXCEEDINGLY IMPORTANT FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE ART WHEN THEY’RE VERY, VERY LITTLE. IT’S THE ONE THING THEY CAN DO IN THEIR LIFE JUST ABOUT. THEY MIGHT HOWEVER DECIDE TO STOP DOING IT. THEY CAN HAVE IT VERY, VERY EARLY IF THEY HAVE IT IN SCHOOL AND/OR HAVE IT AT HOME. HOWEVER IF THEY DON’T HAVE ART IN SCHOOL THAT’S PROBLEMATIC. I’M VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT.>>RIGHT. THESE DAYS IT’S ONE OF THE THINGS — THINGS THAT GETS CUT FROM THE CURRICULUM. >>ABSOLUTELY. IF THEY DON’T HAVE IT WHEN THEY’RE LITTLE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, THEY MAY DROP IT. >>RIGHT. >>AND THEN THEY CANNOT PICK IT BACK UP. IT’S JUST NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING. IT’S LIKE LEARNING HOW TO SING WHEN YOU’RE WHAT 50 YEARS OLD, 60. >>EXACTLY. >>YOU KNOW –>>YOU WERE HOW OLD, 2, 3, 4?>>I GOT ASTHMA WHEN I WAS 2 YEARS OLD. MY MOTHER WENT TO ATLANTIC CITY WITH MY FATHER. THEY TOOK A TINY LITTLE VACATION. LEFT ME AND MY BROTHER AND SISTER WITH FRIENDS AND I GOT ASTHMA. >>RIGHT. >>AND THEY HAD TO RUSH RIGHT BACK HOME. >>SO THEN YOU WEREN’T ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL REGULARLY. >>NO. >>AND THE THING THAT COMPLEMENTED THAT, THAT FILLED UP THAT ACTIVE WHICH WAS YOUR ART. >>ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY DID NOT WANT ME TO GO TO SCHOOL ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE I WOULD GET DISEASES. >>SURE. >>THERE’S POPULAR DISEASES THAT THE CHILDREN USED TO GET IN THOSE DAYS THAT THEY WERE VERY LITTLE CURES FOR.>>UNLIKE ALL THE VACCINES, ET CETERA, THAT WE HAVE NOW. IT WAS A DANGEROUS TIME. >>IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS.>>TO BE A CHILD. >>I DO REMEMBER ONCE — I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AWAY FROM SCHOOL. BUT MY MOTHER HOME SCHOOLED ME. AND SHE WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, GET MY LESSONS, BRING THEM BACK AND I WOULD GO MAYBE TWO WEEKS OUT OF FOUR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>RIGHT. >>THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ME. >>SURE. >>AND MY MOTHER WOULD PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION, MAKE SURE I HAD MY ART. AND I HAD MY LESSONS. AND THE KIDS USED TO SAY WHEN I WOULD GO TO SCHOOL, THEY’D SAY, NOW WHO ARE YOU? HOW COME YOU COME IN ALL OF A SUDDEN?>>I KNOW. YOU COULD HAVE SAID I’M A WORLD FAMOUS ARTIST, FAITH RINGGOLD. ONE DAY I’M GOING TO BE CELEBRATED ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAVE MY ART IN ALL THE MAJOR MUSEUMS AND GALLERIES. >>ALL THE KIDS DID ART. >>THAT’S WHAT –>>AND I WENT — I WAS THE CLASS MURALIST. THEY WOULD PUT THESE BIG OAK TAGS ON THE WALL AND I WOULD PAINT THE PICTURES. THE TEACHER WOULD SAY TO ME, WHAT WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING. I GOT THAT ADVANTAGE. THAT’S VERY INTERESTING. >>AND NOW YOU HAVE HUGE MURALS IN THIS COUNTRY AND ELSEWHERE. >>THAT’S TRUE. >>I THINK OF YOU AS DIEGO RIVERA, YOU’VE DONE THESE MAJOR THINGS IN CALIFORNIA AND ELSEWHERE, HUGE MURALS, AND IT STARTED IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >>YES, IT DID.>>NOW WE KNOW THAT. >>AND MY MOTHER — NOW MY MOTHER WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT SHE DID NOT — SHE WASN’T THINKING ABOUT MY BEING AN ARTIST. SHE THOUGHT ART WAS WONDERFUL. SHE WAS A FASHION DESIGNER. SHE WANTED ME TO DO ART, SHE WANTED ME TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE, SHE WANTED ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SCHOOL WITHOUT THE OTHER CHILDREN. SO THE ART CAME IN. BUT SHE DIDN’T REALLY WANT ME TO BE AN ARTIST. I WAS TOLD FROM THE TIME I WAS A VERY LITTLE GIRL THAT I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE WHEN I GREW UP. >>AND YOU MANAGED TO DO THAT. >>I DID MANAGE TO –>>AND YOU’RE ONE OF OURS, AT CITY COLLEGE. >>BECAUSE I JUST RAN DOWN THE STREET AND YOU WERE THERE. >>AND YOU KNOW WHAT, CAROL? THIS I HAVE TO TELL YOU. I SAW ALL THESE BOYS POURING UP OUT OF THE SUBWAY ON 145th STREET AND ST. NICHOLAS AVENUE. UP THE HILL TO 145th STREET AND CONVENT AND DOWN. >>RIGHT. >>I HAD SEEN THESE BOYS DOING THIS AND I SAID, WHO ARE THESE BOYS? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? THEY’RE GOING TO CITY COLLEGE. SO I SAID, MAYBE THAT’S THE SCHOOL I’M GOING TO. IS THAT WHERE I’M GOING? SHE SAID, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO CITY COLLEGE, YES, IT’S CLOSE. >>WASN’T THERE A HITCH THOUGH THAT GIRLS WEREN’T ALLOWED?>>ABSOLUTELY. >>SO EVEN THOUGH YOU SAW- THAT’S WHERE YOU ALL THOSE BOYS COMING OUT OF THE SUBWAY GIRLS WERE NOT ALLOWED->>BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING? I WAS BROUGHT UP TO LET NOTHING GET IN YOUR WAY. >>SO YOU MANAGED TO TALK YOUR WAY –>>I DIDN’T THINK ABOUT — THAT THEY WERE ALL BOYS.>>RIGHT. RIGHT.>>NOT ONLY WERE THEY ALL BOYS, THEY WERE ALL WHITE BOYS.>>EXACTLY. SO YOU NOW ARE A BLACK GIRL, THAT TALKED YOUR WAY INTO CITY COLLEGE. YOU DID IT BY STUDYING EDUCATION — ART EDUCATION.>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>AND THEN YOU GOT YOUR MASTERS AND ALL OF THAT. >>YES. >>THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GREAT STORIES OF YOU WITH ROMARE BEARDEN, THE WORLD FAMOUS ARTIST. WHEN YOU WERE BECOME A SERIOUS ARTIST, YOU THOUGHT I’M GOING TO BE AN ARTIST AND YOU SHOWED IT TO HIM AND HE SAID, UM, YOU’RE NOT QUITE READY YET. >>WELL, THAT WAS TYPICAL THAT ARTISTS LIKE HIM WOULD LOOK AT ARTISTS LIKE ME AND DECIDE THAT WE NEEDED SOME TRAINING. >>RIGHT.>>HE WOULD ASSUME THAT I HAD NOT BEEN COLLEGE. HE WAS WRONG. >>OH, SO YOU’RE SAYING THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CHAUVINISM THERE.>>ABSOLUTELY, RIGHT. >>RIGHT. NOW AMIRI BARAKA THOUGH->>AMIRI BARAKA WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE. HE REVIEWED MY FIRST SHOW AND HE WAS FABULOUS. >>THAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE BLACK ARTS MOVEMENT OF THE ’60s. AND YOU WERE — YOU KNOW, YOU WERE RIGHT THERE. >>THAT’S RIGHT. >>NOW, IN FACT, EVEN GETTING ARRESTED FOR PROTESTING THAT BLACK ARTISTS WERE NOT BEING SHOWN AT THE WHITNEY SPECIFICALLY, BUT AT ALL OF THE MUSEUMS. SO WHERE DID THAT ACTIVISM AND YOUR FEMINIST TOO IN THE DAYS BEFORE IT WAS REALLY COOL TO BE A FEMINIST, HOW DO YOU THINK –>>I — IT WASN’T COOL TO BE A FEMINIST? I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, YEAH. THE IDEA WAS I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR THE BOYS. FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN, NOT WOMEN AND I LOVED DOING THAT IN THE BEGINNING.>>RIGHT.>>UNTIL WE DEMONSTRATED AT THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART AND WE GOT THE SHOW — THE BOYS. THE BOYS.>>HOW ABOUT IT?>>HOW ABOUT IT? I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND –>>MICHELE. >>MICHELE AND BARBARA AND WE’RE DEMONSTRATING ALL OUTSIDE, INSIDE AND EVERYTHING. AND WHEN THEY CALL IN THE ARTISTS WHO HAD BEEN DEMONSTRATING, THE ART STUDENTS — I FORGET THE NAME. BUT WHEN THEY CALL IN ALL THE PEOPLE, TO SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND TALK WITH THE DIRECTOR, THEY DON’T WANT TO CALL US. THEY CALL THE BOYS. AND WHEN THEY GIVE SOMEBODY A SHOW, THEY GIVE THEM THE SHOW. THAT’S VERY — THAT I AM STANDING UP FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WOMEN AND THEY’RE MEN. I’M JUST HERE GIVING MY SOUL AND GETTING NO MOVEMENT OUT OF IT. IT’S NOT SMART. >>I KNOW. YOU WORKED VERY, VERY HARD. I THINK YOU HAVE WRITTEN OF HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS BEING A WOMAN ARTIST. BEING A BLACK WOMAN ARTIST DURING ALL OF THAT. >>EXCUSE ME, IT STILL IS.>>IT STILL IS? BUT I THINK YOU’RE DOING REALLY WELL. >>WELL, OF COURSE, I’M DETERMINED NOT TO STOP. >>RIGHT. WELL AT 86, YOU SHOULDN’T. YOU’RE YOUNG AND –>>TOO LATE TO STOP.>>AND CREATE — I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR AMERICAN PEOPLE SERIES. EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE PROTESTING AT THE WHITNEY AND ALL, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INCLUDING — MOMA BROUGHT THIS PIECE OF YOURS. IT HAD A HUGE — YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SCREEN THERE. >>OH, MY, 50 YEARS, BUT THAT’S OKAY. >>50 YEARS. >>I DID THIS IN 1967. >>AND THEY FINALLY BROUGHT IT AND FINALLY HAD A BIG PARTY AROUND IT AND CELEBRATED IT. SO –>>I CAN’T THINK OF A PLACE I’D RATHER IT BE THAN THERE. I HAVE TO SAY THAT. >>YES. >>IT TOOK 50 YEARS. >>50 YEARS. >>50 YEARS, RIGHT?>>SO TELL US ABOUT THIS. THERE’S SOME WHO SAID THAT AT THE TIME THAT YOU PAINTED THIS, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO VIOLENT OR TOO EDGY. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I KNOW THAT YOU STARTED OUT PAINTING FLOWERS AND BEAUTIFUL –>>WELL, I DID, BUT THEN I — I HAVE ALL OF — I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DETERMINED TO PAINT MY STORY. NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE USED TO GO TO MOMA. I USED TO TAKE MY DAUGHTERS THERE ALL THE TIME TO LOOK AT — PICASSO’S PAINTING. >>OH. >>THEY HAD ROOM FOR IT AND I LOVED THAT PAINTING. IT WAS — IT WAS WONDERFUL ART. IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL ART. AND –>>I SEE THAT WORK OF YOURS.>>AND YOU SEE IT THERE BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED BY IT. I WAS INSPIRED BY THAT. I USED TO GO THERE AND TAKE MY DAUGHTERS AND WE WOULD BE ALL OVER THE MUSEUM OF MODERN ART.>>RIGHT. THIS IS A PICTURE OF VIOLENCE, WHITE AGAINST BLACK.>>SO THEN IN 1976 — WHEN 1976 CAME, AND 1976 CAME I WANTED TO GO TO AFRICA. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE GOING TO AFRICA AT THAT TIME.>>SURE. >>AND IT’S A CHARTER PLANE, TAKING AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO AFRICA. VERY INEXPENSIVELY. AND I ASKED — IT WAS THE — HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF — OF HOWARD UNIVERSITY.>>HOWARD UNIVERSITY, WITH THE CHARTER. RIGHT.>>WHAT’S HIS NAME? HE WOULD — WHO WOULDN’T WANT TO GO AND I WANTED TO GO. YOU’RE TALKING 1976. NO, YOU’RE TALKING — OH, NO, TALKING 1966. >>WHICH WOULD MAKE IT MORE — MAKE IT EARLIER AND MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. THE CHARTER PLANE –>>1967. >>RIGHT. >>THE CHAIRMAN OF HOWARD UNIVERSITY, WHAT’S HIS NAME? I CAN’T REMEMBER HIS NAME.>>I’M NOT ABLE TO COME ONE THAT. >>NO. IT’S ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE.>>BUT YOU WENT TO AFRICA.>>NO, BUT HE DIDN’T TAKE ME. HE SAID I WASN’T — I DIDN’T HAVE ANY RHYTHM IN MY ART. AND MY ART DIDN’T HAVE ANY RHYTHM.>>HERE’S ANOTHER MALE MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT –>>SAID, WHO’S GOING TO DECIDE WHAT MY ART LOOKS LIKE? SO I WILL SHOW HIM, LISTEN, I’M COLLEGE EDUCATED. I’M NOT JUST SOMEBODY THAT’S OUT THERE DOING SOMETHING. I SAID, I KNOW HOW TO PUT RHYTHM IN MY ART. IF I DON’T HAVE IT THERE, I DON’T WANT IT THERE SO WHAT I GAVE YOU WASN’T USING RHYTHM. BUT YOU WANT TO SEE RHYTHM?>>THAT WAS RHYTHM?>>THERE IT IS. I DID THAT PIECE FOR HIM. >>OH, THAT’S GREAT. >>I DID IT FOR HIM, BUT HE STILL DIDN’T TAKE ME. >>BUT YOU GOT A FABULOUS ART WORK AND 50 YEARS LATER YOU GOT YOUR VICTORY.>>YES, I DID. IS THAT INTERESTING?>>I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR QUILT WORK BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT TELLING YOUR STORY. THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU PROBABLY MOST BY THIS FANTASTIC QUILT WORK. I WAS SHOCKED TO REALIZE THAT YOU FIRST CAME UPON THIS IDEA IN AMSTERDAM AND IT WAS IN NEPALESE INFLUENCE THAT BROUGHT YOU TO THIS AND THESE PANELS WERE FROM WONDERFUL FABRIC AROUND IT. ONE OF THEM IS WHO IS AFRAID OF AUNT JEMIMA, THAT WAS A PIECE THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT NOW WHICH IS JUST — YOUR VERY FIRST –>>NO NO, NOT MY FIRST QUILT. BUT IT WAS MY FIRST QUILT THAT I WROTE ON. >>RIGHT. RIGHT. SO YOU’RE WRITING THE STORY.>>YES, I AM. >>I DID THIS WITH MY MOTHER.>>YOUR MOM, RIGHT. I SAW PICTURES OF THE — OF YOU TWO WORKING TOGETHER. SO YOU’RE NOT ONLY A VISUAL ARTIST, BUT YOU WRITE AS WELL BECAUSE YOU GIVE THE FULL STORY, WHICH IS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE ART WORLD. IS THAT YOU’RE TELLING YOUR LIFE STORY AND THE STORIES OF, YOU KNOW, OF OTHERS. LET’S — THERE WAS A FLAG SERIES WHICH I THINK, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL. WHERE I THINK ONE OF THE TITLES THE FLAG IS BLEEDING.>>YES. >>TALK TO US ABOUT –>>WELL, I THINK IT MIGHT BE BLEEDING RIGHT NOW.>>MAYBE YOU HAVE A NEW SERIES IN THE WORKS. >>I KNOW — HOW AWFUL. >>I KNOW. BUT I KNOW YOU’RE IMPACTED BY SO MANY OF THE WORLD EVENTS.>>WELL, YES. I AM GOING TO BEHAVE. I AM GOING TO –>>I THINK THAT’S AN EXAGGERATION. >>NO, NO.>>YOU’RE –>>BUT I’LL TELL YOU, THIS INSPIRES ME TO TELL MY STORY. AND I JUST DON’T WANT THAT STORY TO TELL, ESPECIALLY NOT FOR CHILDREN. >>RIGHT. LET’S TALK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN’S WORK. 19 BOOKS FOR CHILDREN. “CHAR BEACH” WAS THE FIRST THAT — YOU KNOW, AN AWARD WINNER. >>AMAZING, THEY JUST SPRING IT ON ME. >>YES. >>AMAZING. YOU KNOW? I WASN’T EVEN THINKING ABOUT MAKING A BOOK. I WASN’T THINKING ABOUT IT. ISN’T THAT –>>I KNOW. >>JUST TO BE SITTING THERE AND NOT ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT. I WAS HAVING A SHOW. AND MY DEALER AT THAT TIME, BERNICE, SAID, LOOK, YOU SHOULD MAKE AN ART — YOU SHOULD MAKE SOME ART THAT — THAT WE CAN SHOW FOR YOUR SHOW THAT’S COMING UP. >>RIGHT. >>BECAUSE WE LIKE TO SHOW OFF SOME WORK, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE SHOW –>>RIGHT. >>SO I WENT TO MAKE SOME WORK THAT IS GOING TO BE — FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT TO MAKE THE SHOW. >>I WOULD SAY SO. VERY, VERY INTERESTING. >>SO I SAID — YOU KNOW WHAT I’M GOING TO DO? I’M GOING TO MAKE A QUILT — I MADE THE QUILT BEFORE I MADE THE BOOK. I’M GOING TO MAKE A QUILT AND I’M GOING TO HAVE IT BE UP ON THE ROOF — IT WILL BE ALL OF US ON THE ROOF. WE USED TO GO UP ON THE ROOF AND WE USED TO HAVE OUR LUNCH. AND WE USED TO WATCH THE PEOPLE UP AND DOWN THE STREET. AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. SO I THINK I USE THAT — ACTUALLY, I DIDN’T KNOW IT WAS CALLED TAR BEACH. MY HUSBAND TOLD ME THAT BECAUSE HE LIVED RIGHT UP THE STREET. THAT’S TRUE. HE LIVED RIGHT UP THE STREET.>>RIGHT. RIGHT.>>I SAID WHAT DID YOU CALL THE ROOFS THAT WE USED TO GO — TAR BEACH. I SAID, OH, MY GOSH. BECAUSE NOBODY HAD AIR CONDITIONING. >>I KNOW. BUT THIS BOOK WON CALDECOTT AWARDS, THE CORETTA SCOTT KING AWARD, BEEN REPRINTED A ZILLION TIMES.>>JUST HAD THE 25th ANNIVERSARY. >>25 YEARS. NOW I WAS READING JUDITH LEIBER HAS A SHOW OPENING AND SHE CORNERBACK RATED WITH YOU — COLLABORATED WITH YOU ON HANDBAGS AND SHE SAID YOU WERE A COLLABORATOR OF HERS. >>JUDITH LEIBER DID THE FANTASTIC HANDBAGS. SHE WORKS IN ONE MATERIAL, AND I WORK IN ANOTHER. THAT’S KIND OF NICE TO DO, YES. ABSOLUTELY. >>WHAT PLANS DO YOU HAVE? WHAT THINGS ARE YOU WORKING ON NOW? I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR STUDIO IN THE HOME. >>I’M WORKING ON MY GAME.>>RIGHT. RIGHT. YOU’RE GOING TO PUT THAT UP.>>YEAH. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS INSPIRED FROM PLAYING SUDOKU. AND SUDOKU IS JUST NUMBERS AND COLORS — NO COLORS, EXCUSE ME. BLACK AND WHITE, JUST NUMBERS AND PLAYED IT AND PLAYED IT AND PLAYED IT. THEN I SAID I THINK THIS WOULD BE MAKE AN INTERESTING DESIGN COMBINATION. NINE — INSTEAD OF JUST NINE NUMBERS I’LL HAVE NINE COLORS AND NINE IMAGES. BECAUSE I’M — I LOVE DOING DESIGNS. I LOVE DESIGN, RIGHT? AND I HAD WONDERFUL TEACHERS AT CITY COLLEGE. I HAD FABULOUS TEACHERS AT CITY COLLEGE. MIND YOU, THEY NEVER TAUGHT ME ANYTHING ABOUT ILLUSTRATION OR BOOKS. NO. THEY SAID THAT ILLUSTRATION WAS NOT ART. THEY SAID THAT.>>WELL –>>THEY’RE GONE NOW. BUT THAT’S WHAT THEY SAID. THEY NEVER TEACH ME THE DESIGNS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. >>RIGHT.>>CITY COLLEGE WAS IT. AND –>>NOW YOU’VE BROUGHT IT TO –>>AND NOW I HAVE TAKEN THAT KNOWLEDGE OF — OF DESIGN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, AFRICA, ASIA, EGYPT, WHEREVER –>>RIGHT. >>WHICH WAS OPENED UP TO ME BY MY TEACHERS AT CITY COLLEGE. >>NOW YOU HAVE TURNED THAT TO THE NEXT GENERATION — I GUESS YOU’RE PLAYING IT EVERY DAY. QUILT-DOKU.>>QUILT-U-DOKU.>>BE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THAT –>>YEAH. YOU GOT TO HAVE QUILT-U-DOKU.>>TRAVELING WITH HER CARDS AS WELL. AS ANY FINE ARTIST. HOW OFTEN ARE YOU WORKING IN YOUR STUDIO NOW?>>OH, MY GOODNESS. I AM WORKING GENERALLY SPEAKING I GET UP AROUND 6:00 IN THE MORNING. 5:00, 6:00. GO UPSTAIRS, WORK TILL AT LEAST — 12:00. NOT EVERY DAY THOUGH. MOSTLY EVERY DAY. >>RIGHT. >>WHEN I’M NOT DOING MY TAXES, DIFFERENT STUFF LIKE THAT. >>RIGHT. >>BUT I LIKE TO WORK EVERY DAY. >>EVERY DAY. >>THEN THE WRITING HAPPENS IN THE AFTERNOON. >>IN THE AFTERNOON. WELL, YOU’RE A MARVEL AND AN INSPIRATION AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR — WE ALWAYS ASK OUR GUEST TO FINISH THIS STATEMENT, THE POWER, THE STRENGTH OF BLACK AMERICA LIES IN — WHAT’S THAT FOR YOU?>>THE POWER OF BLACK AMERICA IS DETERMINATION. >>DETERMINATION.>>NEVER TO STOP TRYING. NEVER. >>AND YOU ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF –>>WELL, I TRY. >>OF SOMEONE WHO PRODUCED PHENOMENALLY FOR –>>I TRY VERY HARD, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE INSPIRED ME. FROM THE TIME I WAS A LITTLE CHILD. ALL THOSE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE CREATED GREAT MUSIC, DANCE, THEATER, WRITING. I JUST TAKE MY HATS OFF TO ALL OF THEM. AS I’M VERY, VERY PROUD OF WHO I AM. I’M VERY PROUD OF WHO I AM, ABSOLUTELY. >>YOU SHOULD BE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE EARNED IT. YOU HAVE CREATED A WONDERFUL BODY OF WORK AND STILL EVERY DAY NOW IN YOUR STUDIO. ART IN THE MORNING AND WRITING IN THE AFTERNOON. PROVIDED A GREAT WEALTH OF ART –>>AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE EXAMPLES, HOW MANY PEOPLE, I GO BACK TO THE PERIOD IN — ON THE TELEVISION. AND I HAVE TO BRING IT TO ME.>>RIGHT. RIGHT. I WAS THERE. >>I WAS THERE. OH, MY, THAT WAS SO WONDERFUL. >>WELL, THOSE WERE THE DAYS AND –>>ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS GONE FOREVER?>>NO. SOME THEY LIVE IN THE ETHER SOMEWHERE I DO BELIEVE, BUT WE HAVE — WE SHOULD PROBABLY CREATE SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVE DONE. YOU’LL HAVE TO LET US USE YOUR ARTISTIC TALENT. >>OKAY. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE’LL GET TOGETHER AND DO THAT.>>FAITH RINGGOLD, MY THANKS TO YOU FOR COMING IN TODAY. >>ALL RIGHT. >>WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. >>THANK YOU.>>AND THANKS TO YOU ALL OUT THERE TOO FOR BEING WITH US. I’M CAROL JENKINS, THE PROGRAM IS “BLACK AMERICA.” WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. ♪ [THEME MUSIC] ♪

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